Comments on: The Joy Of Shame http://blog.johnlacey.net/the-joy-of-shame/ Just another WordPress site Sat, 12 Feb 2011 11:12:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: What is Religion? » BLOG :: Part Of The John Lacey Network http://blog.johnlacey.net/the-joy-of-shame/#comment-115 What is Religion? » BLOG :: Part Of The John Lacey Network Sun, 01 Feb 2009 09:39:09 +0000 http://blog.johnlacey.net/?p=208#comment-115 [...] years ago I decided I didn’t really subscribe to the worldview that religion (specifically, Christianity) had provided me with. It is funny though because I still have moments where I revert to old [...] [...] years ago I decided I didn’t really subscribe to the worldview that religion (specifically, Christianity) had provided me with. It is funny though because I still have moments where I revert to old [...]

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]]> By: Daniel http://blog.johnlacey.net/the-joy-of-shame/#comment-111 Daniel Sat, 21 Jun 2008 16:04:02 +0000 http://blog.johnlacey.net/?p=208#comment-111 It's not just 'extremist' churches that focus on guilt and shame. I'm not positive on this, but I think that John (like me) was raised by run-of-the-mill moderate evangelical Australian Protestants. The fact is that Christianity is centred around the doctrine of salvation, which all seems very positive until you stop to ask, "salvation from what?" Sin and damnation is the other side of the coin - you can't have one without another, and you can't help but be concerned with both no matter which of the two aspects your church chooses to focus on more in expressing it. John - I'm in Nowra and have some free time tomorrow if you feel like having a drink at some place that is not Gloria Jeans. I'll give you a call. It’s not just ‘extremist’ churches that focus on guilt and shame. I’m not positive on this, but I think that John (like me) was raised by run-of-the-mill moderate evangelical Australian Protestants. The fact is that Christianity is centred around the doctrine of salvation, which all seems very positive until you stop to ask, “salvation from what?” Sin and damnation is the other side of the coin – you can’t have one without another, and you can’t help but be concerned with both no matter which of the two aspects your church chooses to focus on more in expressing it.

John – I’m in Nowra and have some free time tomorrow if you feel like having a drink at some place that is not Gloria Jeans. I’ll give you a call.

]]> By: marquisdejolie http://blog.johnlacey.net/the-joy-of-shame/#comment-110 marquisdejolie Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:47:00 +0000 http://blog.johnlacey.net/?p=208#comment-110 The rain falls on saint and sinner alike. God is fair. The rain falls on saint and sinner alike. God is fair.

]]> By: Steve http://blog.johnlacey.net/the-joy-of-shame/#comment-109 Steve Fri, 20 Jun 2008 01:02:10 +0000 http://blog.johnlacey.net/?p=208#comment-109 Ah religion... I had two discussions yesterday on the topic as to my views on homosexuality and LBGT issues. Would love to hear about your project. Ah religion… I had two discussions yesterday on the topic as to my views on homosexuality and LBGT issues. Would love to hear about your project.

]]> By: brojoghost http://blog.johnlacey.net/the-joy-of-shame/#comment-108 brojoghost Thu, 19 Jun 2008 02:04:49 +0000 http://blog.johnlacey.net/?p=208#comment-108 I agree with VioletKitty411. But to me it sounds like you were raised Catholic, or within an extremist church I agree with VioletKitty411. But to me it sounds like you were raised Catholic, or within an extremist church

]]> By: VioletKitty411 http://blog.johnlacey.net/the-joy-of-shame/#comment-107 VioletKitty411 Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:10:04 +0000 http://blog.johnlacey.net/?p=208#comment-107 Christians don't have a theological excuse to dislike you. It pains me that you have been given that impression. Sadly, though in theory Christians are supposed to internalize that no sin is greater than another, many still play the comparison game "I'm not as bad as..." to attempt to justify their own issues. Christ Himself criticized the Pharisees for doing just that. I rather wonder the denomination that you participated in. A couple specialize in guilt and shame. It's also counter to the doctrine of Christ. "If man be in Christ, he is a new creation,old things have passed away." You've been told by enough "Christians" that you are bad...I want to instill this in you: you are valuable, precious to God (even if you you don't believe in Him) and worthy of love. VK Christians don’t have a theological excuse to dislike you. It pains me that you have been given that impression. Sadly, though in theory Christians are supposed to internalize that no sin is greater than another, many still play the comparison game “I’m not as bad as…” to attempt to justify their own issues. Christ Himself criticized the Pharisees for doing just that.

I rather wonder the denomination that you participated in. A couple specialize in guilt and shame. It’s also counter to the doctrine of Christ. “If man be in Christ, he is a new creation,old things have passed away.” You’ve been told by enough “Christians” that you are bad…I want to instill this in you: you are valuable, precious to God (even if you you don’t believe in Him) and worthy of love.

VK

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