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	<title>John Lacey Gets Personal &#187; Religion</title>
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		<title>Any Minute Now&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 23:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John Lacey</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last week's <I>The Spirit of Things</I> saw Rachael Kohn talking to Marion Maddox about 'Mega Churches.' In Australia we probably most closely identify this idea with the Hillsong Church. I found this quote about the 'vision' of mega churches quite fascinating. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last week&#8217;s <A HREF="http://www.abc.net.au/rn/spiritofthings/stories/2010/2952369.htm#transcript"><I>The Spirit of Things</I></A> saw Rachael Kohn talking to Marion Maddox about &#8216;Mega Churches.&#8217; In Australia we probably most closely identify this idea with the Hillsong Church. I found this quote about the &#8216;vision&#8217; of mega churches quite fascinating. </p>
<p>Marion Maddox: </p>
<blockquote><p>Well growth is certainly a big part of it. Growth in numbers, growth in excitement, growth in the feeling that something&#8217;s happening, there&#8217;s always something very exciting about to happen. God is going to deliver something wonderful for us any minute now. One of the features of mega churches is that they have what sociologists of religion call a high level of churn, so other churches often look within the mega churches and notice that they have a real demographic bubble around 18-30 age group, but it&#8217;s an interesting thing that a mega church that has been going for 20 years, 20 years ago had that same demographic bubble of the 18-30s and still has that same demographic bubble, so they&#8217;re not the same people who were there 20 years ago. People often say, &#8216;A wide front door, but a lot of small back doors&#8217;. People come in but they also move out.</p>
<p>One reason for that is that the vision is all about growth and positiveness and being who you want to be and just as the leader visions what the church should be, individuals are encouraged to vision who they want to be, and this works very well, as long as you&#8217;re getting promotions and your career&#8217;s on the up, and your family&#8217;s growing. It doesn&#8217;t sustain you so well when your spouse gets a terminal illness or one of your children runs into serious difficulties, or you yourself face life crises of one sort of another to be turning up to church where every week there are praise notices about everyone else in the congregation, who&#8217;s finally got the house or the car or the job they wanted and these things are prayed for and given thanks for when they happen, can be a dispiriting message if you&#8217;re not getting there.</BLOCKQUOTE></p>
<p>Happy Sunday!</p>
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		<title>Computer Game Salvation</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 05:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John Lacey</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[Doom]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[I’m standing around at an 80th birthday celebration for a distant relative. I have my jacket zipped up (it’s cold). My mother turns to me and asks, “What t-shirt are you wearing?”]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m standing around at an 80th birthday celebration for a distant relative. I have my jacket zipped up (it&#8217;s cold). My mother turns to me and asks, &#8220;What t-shirt are you wearing?&#8221;</p>
<p>I look at her curiously for a moment.</p>
<p>&#8220;Because some people have been telling me how impressed they were to see a young person wearing a t-shirt with a religious message.&#8221;</p>
<p>My mother knows me well enough to realise I don&#8217;t possess such a t-shirt, and I laugh to myself at the source of the confusion.</p>
<p>One of my favourite computer games is <em>DOOM</em>. <img class="size-medium wp-image-1173 alignright" title="Doomed if you do..." src="http://blog.johnlacey.net/relatedfiles/doom-as-indication-of-male-fashions-300x190.jpg" alt="Doomed if you do..." width="300" height="190" ALIGN="RIGHT" />I couldn&#8217;t tell you much about the game&#8217;s storyline but essentially you go around killing monsters and people. I played it when I was in high school, infact after a particularly gruelling day it seemed therapeutic to put the cheats on and take my frustrations out on these pixellated characters.</p>
<p>Some months ago I decided to honour a few of my different interests by buying tshirts about them from RedBubble. I bought one tshirt with a Space Invader character on it, another that featured a scifi pulp magazine cover artwork, Mario (of Super Mario Brothers) with his arm up in the air and in the style and colour of those Obama posters. And I also bought a tshirt design inspired by the Doom computer game. </p>
<p>The Doom shirt reads: </p>
<blockquote><p>IDDQD: The Secret To Eternal Life</BLOCKQUOTE></p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t a religious message &#8211; at least not of any religion I am familiar with &#8211; it is the cheat code for so-called &#8216;God Mode&#8217;. The secret to eternal life is super powers and invicibility&#8230; not saviour via Jesus Christ. </p>
<p>It made me laugh anyway. </p>
<p>Happy Sunday!</p>
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		<title>Does that make any sense anyway really?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2010 08:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John Lacey</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It might surprise many of you to know that a lot of thought goes into these ocassional blog entries pertaining to the subject of religion. Though despite knowing that Easter was coming up for a very long time and reflecting upon many different things from many different angles, I confess I haven't anything particularly fascinating to say. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might surprise many of you to know that a lot of thought goes into these ocassional blog entries pertaining to the subject of religion. Though despite knowing that Easter was coming up for a very long time and reflecting upon many different things from many different angles, I confess I haven&#8217;t anything particularly fascinating to say. </p>
<p>I would however like to leave you with some words from Canada&#8217;s best known religion writer, Tom Harpur. <I>The Spirit Of Things</I>&#8216; Rachael Kohn asked if those reading the Bible literally were &#8216;getting the message wrong.&#8217;</p>
<p><A HREF="http://www.abc.net.au/rn/spiritofthings/stories/2010/2777543.htm">Tom Harpur</A>: </p>
<blockquote><p>I think yes, I think they are getting parts of it very wrong. I mean for example, if you&#8217;re on a Billy Graham Crusade and you hear him preaching, this whole picture of yourself as a massa damnata or whatever it was St Augustine called it &#8211; a mass of sin &#8211; and you have be dangled over the flames of hell in order to be sufficiently needy that you reach out for the answer that they ust so conveniently have ready to hand you. I think doing that to people can be very cruel. I know people who went to the Billy Graham Crusade with deep, deep, deep problems and got &#8216;saved&#8217; and went out later on and took their own life.</p>
<p>This happened with an Oxford student friend of mine, and Billy came to Oxford. You know, I&#8217;m not blaming Billy for that. But the last thing this person needed was to be told there was some instant answer to his need, or to be told that he was the terrible sinful person in the eyes of God needing the shed blood of someone long ago. Does that make any sense anyway really? It doesn&#8217;t make any sense to me. And I don&#8217;t think it makes very much sense to an awful lot of people who stop to really think about it. Does it make sense that one person could take on himself the sins of Buchenwald and Auschwitz and all the camps? I mean just to mention one sick phase in our history. Could all the sin of all the people of all the world be taken away by any amount of blood of any amount of perfect paragons? I don&#8217;t think so.</BLOCKQUOTE></p>
<p>Happy Easter&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Thou Shall Pick And Choose</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 00:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John Lacey</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jacobs had some great things to say on a range of subjects but there's one I really wanted to zero in on and look at today. Specifically, when evaluating the Bible as a religious text, how do you negiotate which things are most imperative and which are dispensable?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A. J. Jacobs is the author of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0743291484?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=entertainthet-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=0743291484">The Year of Living Biblically: One Man&#8217;s Humble Quest to Follow the Bible as Literally as Possible</a>. He gave a great talk at <A HREF="http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/a_j_jacobs_year_of_living_biblically.html">TED</A>.</p>
<p>Jacobs had some great things to say on a range of subjects but there&#8217;s one I really wanted to zero in on and look at today, because &#8211; as long time readers will know &#8211; it is something I&#8217;ve been preoccupied with for a really long time. Specifically, when evaluating the Bible as a religious text, how do you negiotate which things are most imperative and which are dispensable?</p>
<p>I always think of that line Ned Flanders delivers in <I>The Simpsons</I>: </p>
<blockquote><p>I&#8217;ve followed everything it says in the bible &#8211; even those bits that contradict the other bits.</BLOCKQUOTE></p>
<p>A. J. Jacobs: </p>
<blockquote><p>And finally I learned that thou shall pick and choose. And this one I learned because I tried to follow everything in the Bible. And I failed miserably.  Because you can&#8217;t. You have to pick and choose, and anyone who follows the Bible is going to be picking and choosing. The key is to pick and choose the right parts. There&#8217;s the phrase called cafeteria religion, and the fundamentalists will use it in a denigrating way, and they&#8217;ll say, &#8220;Oh, it&#8217;s just cafeteria religion. You&#8217;re just picking and choosing.&#8221; But my argument is, &#8220;What&#8217;s wrong with cafeterias?&#8221; I&#8217;ve had some great meals at cafeterias. I&#8217;ve also had some meals that make me want to dry heave. So, it&#8217;s about choosing the parts of the Bible about compassion, about tolerance, about loving your neighbor, as opposed to the parts about homosexuality is a sin, or intolerance, or violence, which are very much in the Bible as well. So if we are to find any meaning in this book, then we have to really engage it, and wrestle with it. </p></blockquote>
<p>In <A HREF="http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/a_j_jacobs_year_of_living_biblically.html">the talk</A> Jacobs compares the Bible to Wikipedia, in the sense that it has &#8220;all of these authors and editors over hundreds of years.  And it&#8217;s sort of evolved. It&#8217;s not a book that was written and came down from on high.&#8221; He notes too the approach of the Red Letter Christians, those who emphasise the words apparently spoken by Jesus Christ over the contribution of those <I>other</I> authors and editors.</p>
<p>So how do you wrestle with a religious text if you can&#8217;t take it literally? And what&#8217;s so great about literal interpretations anyway? Can you practice a religion without adhering to the traditional norms and practice of that religion?</p>
<p>Mona Eltahawy, speaking to Rachael Kohn on <A HREF="http://www.abc.net.au/rn/spiritofthings/stories/2010/2814596.htm"><I>The Spirit Of Things</I></A>, explored the perceived relationship between conservatism and authencity.</p>
<p>Mona Eltahawy: </p>
<blockquote><p>I think also at the heart of this argument is this idea that conservative equals authentic, and that the more conservative you are, the better of whatever religion you are. And I oppose this idea vigorously because I&#8217;m a liberal Muslim and I&#8217;m also an authentic Muslim. But the kind of Muslim you see in the media is always the conservative Muslim who wants to speak for me. So it&#8217;s always the man who has a long beard and very, very severe and very strict, and the more covered up the woman is, the more authentic she must be. Well I am not covered up and I am a Muslim, and I demand to be taken seriously as a Muslim. </BLOCKQUOTE></p>
<p>Something to think about. So how do you <I>pick and choose</I>?</p>
<p>Happy Sunday.</p>
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		<title>Immaculate Concepts</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 19:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John Lacey</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A boy, when asked to draw something that reminded him of Christmas, draws a stick figure character (apparently) of Jesus Christ. The boy is promptly sent home and sent off for psychological evaluation. It was a reaction that had even some of my atheist friends crying "overkill." ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meaning is a funny thing. </p>
<p>A boy, when asked to draw something that reminded him of Christmas, draws a stick figure character (apparently) of Jesus Christ. The boy is promptly sent home and sent off for psychological evaluation. It was a reaction that had even some of my atheist friends crying &#8220;overkill.&#8221; Was this political correctness gone mad? An extreme action to enforce some sort of separation between church and state? An appropriate response from a concerned teacher (in a nation with a particular history of school shootings)? </p>
<p>Who knows&#8230; Infact the more you dig into <A HREF="http://wbztv.com/local/taunton.cross.drawing.2.1370369.html">the story</A>, the more confusing it becomes. But what interests me here is religion and it&#8217;s symbols. It is one thing to associate Jesus with Christmas, but why the crucifix? I mean, don&#8217;t misunderstand me; the cross is an important part of the Jesus story. It is symbolic of the sacrifice God made obtensibly on behalf of all of humanity. But it is the domain of the Easter story. Christmas is more concerned with baby Jesus, the immaculate virgin birth.</p>
<p>Or is it? </p>
<p>Clay Nelson on <A HREF="http://rgd2naigodstmatthews.podomatic.com/entry/eg/2009-12-15T10_14_19-08_00">Christmas, Theologies and Billboards</A>: </p>
<blockquote><p>To make the news at Christmas it seems a priest just has to question the &#8216;literal-ness&#8217; of a virgin giving birth. Many in society mistakenly think that to challenge literalism is to challenge the norms of Christianity. What progressive interpretations try to do, however, is to remove the supernatural fluff and delve into the deeper spiritual truth of this festival. Christian fundamentalism believes a supernatural male God who lived above sent his sperm into the womb of the virgin Mary. Although there were a series of miraculous events surrounding Jesus&#8217; birth &#8211; like wandering stars and angelic choirs &#8211; the real miracle was his death and ressurrection 33 years later.</BLOCKQUOTE></p>
<p>In the <I>Fortean Times</I> 1993 Diary, compiled by Paul Sieveking and Val Stevenson, there is an interesting note on the 21st January (incidentally my own birthday). It reads: </p>
<blockquote><p>The day of St. Agnes, patron saint of sheep. She is probably the Roman-Jewish version of Agna, an incarnation of the Ewe goddess Rachel. Like the Virgin Mary, she came from &#8216;immaculate&#8217; parents. In spite of being pre-Christian, not to mention closely connected with sacred prostitutes, her relics are preserved in Rome and constantly adored by the faithful. Unfortunately for her credibility, Agnes is said to have been martyred in the reign of Constantine &#8211; when Christians were not persecuted.</BLOCKQUOTE></p>
<p>Two thoughts occur to me. Just how rare were &#8216;immaculate&#8217; births; and how problematic such tales must be if we cannot confirm the circumstances of a person&#8217;s death (what with dying &#8211; unlike immaculate conception &#8211; being an observed and documented phenomena)?</p>
<p><CENTER><img src="http://blog.johnlacey.net/relatedfiles/poor-joseph-and-mary.jpg" alt="Poor Joseph. God Was A Hard Act To Follow." title="Poor Joseph. God Was A Hard Act To Follow." width="400" height="267" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1493" /></CENTER></p>
<p>Of course these things are just the tip of a much more problematic iceberg. It is the kind of iceberg that Clay Nelson alludes to. It is this underlying conflict between literalism and non-literal readings of texts within the same traditions. Even listening to Nelson&#8217;s sermon for the first time I wondered why some sections were (as he puts it) &#8220;supernatural fluff&#8221; and others were &#8220;miraculous.&#8221;</p>
<p>Increasingly I encounter religious proponents who stress the importance of not taking religious texts so literally. Take for example <A HREF="http://www.abc.net.au/rn/spiritofthings/stories/2009/2752971.htm#transcript">Brian McLaren&#8217;s take on the Book of Relevation</A>: </p>
<blockquote><p>My background, before becoming a pastor, I was a college English teacher, so my background was literature, and that&#8217;s been something of an advantage to me in approaching the Biblical text because when you study literature, one of the first questions you ask is &#8216;What&#8217;s the genre of this piece of literature&#8217; and the Book of Revelation is in the genre of Jewish apocalyptic literature. We had dozens of examples of this genre from about the 2nd century BC to the 1st and 2nd century AD, and when you put the Book of Revelation back into that genre, just like putting Jesus back in a setting, you put that document back in a setting, you read it completely differently. It stops being a prediction about the end of the world and it becomes a way to talk about what was going on at that moment.</p>
<p>Now there are two theories about the Book of Revelation. One is that it was written in the 60s and the other in the 90s, but either way it was written under a period of intense persecution of Christians by the Roman Emperor, and they were being killed and brutally persecuted and blamed for all kinds of things. And under that regime, the Book of Revelation says &#8216;Don&#8217;t give up hope, don&#8217;t give up your faith, in the end it will triumph.&#8217; But it uses subversive language to do that, and what&#8217;s happened is, without being aware of the rules of the genre, people have interpreted it to say all kinds of outrageous things. </BLOCKQUOTE></p>
<p>Genre and historical context should help with understanding religious texts, but I suspect where these things aren&#8217;t known to the reader, the meaning becomes a very open ended thing. <I>This</I> is what it says, and <I>this</I> is what it means.</p>
<p>I am reminded of a musician and composer I once worked for. She had released an album of mostly improvised piano pieces. She was set to play one on live television. &#8220;Is that how long it goes for?&#8221; a segment producer asked. She answered the question with yet another question. &#8220;How long do you want it to be?&#8221;</p>
<p>Merry Christmas!</p>
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		<title>Religion Is Opt-In; Law Isn&#8217;t</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 08:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John Lacey</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is what is at the heart of the separation of church and state, this understanding that certain things apply to certain people in certain contexts. And religion is tribal, religion is ‘opt-in’.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something has really been pissing me off lately. And actually it&#8217;s something that I haven&#8217;t ever really had much emotional investment in until very recently. Because I always thought it was a legal construct, a formality, but actually within the last week I think it&#8217;s affecting people&#8217;s psyches in ways I certainly hadn&#8217;t considered. I might write about this some more in the future &#8211; but I tell you all this just to explain that the video I&#8217;m about to quote wasn&#8217;t the one I went looking for, though I thought it embodied something worth sharing&#8230; </p>
<p>YouTuber <A HREF="http://youtube.com/1938superman">1938Superman</A> made a video titled <A HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpMg-FZueIs">Milgram Religion</A>. The video is about 25 minutes long. He makes a lot of points within that time, but there was one I wanted to really focus on here. </p>
<p>1938Superman: </p>
<blockquote><p>I put it out as plainly as I could. Your religious views are yours. Other people who don&#8217;t believe what you believe shouldn&#8217;t be subject to them. That&#8217;s most of the reason your religious views shouldn&#8217;t be involved in making laws, because your religious views govern the people that believe that religion, while the laws are supposed to govern <I>everybody</I>. And you wouldn&#8217;t find it very favorable if someone who had different religious views than you was having their religion infused into the laws and you had to follow the philosophies and rules and laws of their religion or you&#8217;d be arrested. By our own legal process you would be forced to follow them. You wouldn&#8217;t like that.</BLOCKQUOTE></p>
<p>I wonder if this mentality doesn&#8217;t hark back to times when we didn&#8217;t have the kind of racial and religious diversity we see today. Times when a ruling monarch actually did set the religious standards and they were enforceable in this way, that there was this meshing of religion, law and power. I imagine in some special instances &#8211; say, Vatican City, for example &#8211; that this is probably still the case.</p>
<p>I am always slightly bemused when people tell me &#8220;Australia is a Christian country.&#8221; Even if you resist the urge to take this literally, to think that this piece of dirt has a religion (and that it has nothing to do with Aboriginal mysticism), it is usually cited as an excuse to enforce a kind of social norm. And, actually, we see this all the time in Australia, even in more secular pursuits. The Melbourne Cup, for example. If you don&#8217;t place a bet on this celebrated horse racing event or have a drink on this day, you&#8217;re clearly &#8220;UnAustralian.&#8221; (Never mind the terrible social consequences such an attitude might have on those suffering from gambling addictions and alcoholism.) You&#8217;ll be harassed if you don&#8217;t participate in this ritual, but you won&#8217;t be arrested &#8211; and that&#8217;s kind of the point, I think.</p>
<p>This is what is at the heart of the separation of church and state, this understanding that certain things apply to certain people in certain contexts. And religion is tribal, religion is &#8216;opt-in&#8217;. You are initiated into a tradition in one fashion or another. You choose to do certain specific things and identify as part of a specific group. Other people identify with other traditions and participate in other rituals.</p>
<p>I think Rabbi Jeremy Lawrence, talking to Rachel Kohn on <A HREF="http://www.abc.net.au/rn/spiritofthings/stories/2009/2661493.htm">The Spirit of Things</A>, makes this point well.</p>
<p>Rabbi Jeremy Lawrence: </p>
<blockquote><p>As Rebecca was saying before, you say a certain food isn&#8217;t allowed and it creates some kind of desire. Within the Torah we&#8217;re given a whole slew of animals, many of which are not readily accessible, but others which are, like a pig or a camel, that we&#8217;re not allowed to eat, and meat with milk that we&#8217;re not allowed to eat.</p>
<p>On the verse that I referred to before, it says you should be holy, and that meant you should separate, so Nachmanides says if you&#8217;re walking past a butcher&#8217;s shop and you see this huge pig hanging up there, you&#8217;re not supposed to say &#8216;How revolting, how terrible, how could people eat such things?&#8217; You&#8217;re supposed to say, that you know, &#8216;This is food and God has provided in the world, but it&#8217;s not for me to eat&#8217; and I&#8217;ve got a measure of self-censorship in that.</BLOCKQUOTE></p>
<p>Here eating pork is not in and of itself a bad thing necessarily, those keeping Kosher are motivated by the commitment they made within their tradition. You&#8217;ll note the expression &#8220;self-censorship&#8221; here. You could perhaps argue that the act of consuming certain foods and not others here is of less importance than the commitment to the tradition that the act represents.</p>
<p>I understand that proponents of specific religious traditions may wish that everyone should embrace their particular tradition. (Many of the world&#8217;s religions are deeply rooted in proselytizing traditions.) Though such a push would result in less authenicity among religious practitioners because to participate authentically within religion requires faith and commitment.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m reminded of the remark of Twitter user <A HREF="http://twitter.com/nzafro">@NZAfro</A>: </p>
<p><img src="http://blog.johnlacey.net/relatedfiles/nz-afro-praying-for-an-atheist.jpg" alt="@NZAfro: Praying For An Atheist..." title="@NZAfro: Praying For An Atheist..." width="555" height="270" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1446" /></p>
<blockquote><p>I hate it when people say they pray for me. I ask them not to! I&#8217;m atheist, that&#8217;s like eating a chicken to help a vegetarian!</BLOCKQUOTE></p>
<p>Happy Sunday!</p>
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		<title>The Stance Of Silence</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 08:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John Lacey</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently mused over <A HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5UFNigUenM">the word play of a local church sign</A>. The puns were so cringeworthingly awful that I couldn&#8217;t help but laugh. &#8220;The Best Vitamin For A Christian is B1,&#8221; it exclaimed. And during another week, &#8220;Give the devil an inch and he&#8217;ll become a ruler.&#8221;</p>
<p>Today&#8217;s message me wonder. It read: </p>
<blockquote><p>Silence is often misinterpreted but it is never misquoted.</BLOCKQUOTE> </p>
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</script></span>The links between the other messages and Christianity seemed obvious. This one had me slightly baffled. You can never misquote Jesus&#8217; silence? Something about the church&#8217;s response to systematic sexual abuse within the clergy? Perhaps the local Presbyterian church reached a conclusion similar to that of my friend Daniel. He ultimately decided that God answered prayers in the same way a piece of cheese did. Of course I&#8217;m being silly. God answers <I>all prayers</I> it is just that sometimes the answer is no&#8230; or [the sound of crickets chirping]</p>
<p>One group of people who will not go quietly however are New South Wales HSC students. Religion students are crying foul at one of questions that appeared on their final exam, which apparently baffled many students and reduced some to tears.</p>
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<p>The thing that interested me though was the subject matter of the offending question. According to <A HREF="http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/10/24/2723083.htm">ABC News online</A>: </p>
<blockquote><p>She [McAuley Catholic College student Lauren Priest] says the question began with a quote and then asked students to assess, in relation to the quote, how Christianity is a living religious tradition in the life of its adherents.</BLOCKQUOTE></p>
<p>Call me a conspiracy theorist if you must, but has the Department of Education done a deal with the Bible Society? It seems interesting that such a question should coincide with <A HREF="http://blog.johnlacey.net/jesus-all-about-erm-something/">the Bible Society&#8217;s &#8220;Jesus: All About Life&#8221; campaign</A>.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what this quote was, or who was quoted. I&#8217;m not even familiar with the curriculum for this subject. But, wow, if students at a Catholic College can&#8217;t make a case for Christianity as a living religious tradition&#8230; that&#8217;s kind of &#8220;interesting&#8221; &#8211; don&#8217;t you think?</p>
<p>Happy Sunday!</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 03:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John Lacey</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I fear I may have been a tad too generous in thinking there might've been a more thoughtful purpose to the Bible Society's Jesus: All About Life advertising campaign than prosletysing... A Bible Society brochure has cleared up all the question marks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fear I may have been a tad too generous in thinking there might&#8217;ve been a more thoughtful purpose to <A HREF="http://blog.johnlacey.net/jesus-all-about-erm-something/">the Bible Society&#8217;s <I>Jesus: All About Life</I> advertising campaign</A> than prosletysing&#8230; A Bible Society brochure has cleared up all the question marks.</p>
<p>From the brochure: </p>
<blockquote><p>The &#8216;Jesus. All About Life&#8217; campaign is all about helping you understand what Jesus said about what he called &#8216;the abundant life&#8217; or &#8216;life to the max.&#8217; Many people find this hard to accept because they think that being a Christian means you have to stop doing anything you enjoy and instead walk around being boring and dull.</BLOCKQUOTE> </p>
<p>You think so? Really? The primary reason that people opt for a non-Christian religious practice (or no religious practice) is because they&#8217;re worried about walking &#8220;around being bored and dull&#8221;? You don&#8217;t think belief or life experience might factor into this equation?</p>
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</script></span>That there was human life before Jesus, that there were other religious traditions before and after Christianity, that there were (<A HREF="http://www.abc.net.au/rn/spiritofthings/stories/2009/2652633.htm">as Tom Harpur noted</A>) &#8220;Christ figures [plural] and Christ communities and many Christianities&#8221; are of no consequence here. That is unsurprising; uncertainities do not create converts, especially not within people who base their religious orientation on its proximity to excitement and &#8216;life to the max.&#8217;</p>
<p>The trick is to reframe the whole experience. You&#8217;re not being &#8216;converted&#8217; rather you&#8217;re discovering how to experience &#8216;an abundant life.&#8217; The three steps towards this process involve accepting Jesus (as &#8220;not just another spiritual option&#8230;&#8221; but as God), asking (specifically about the death and ressurrection of Jesus and <A HREF="http://blog.johnlacey.net/harsh-perhaps/">atonement</A>), and finally changing (converting?)&#8230;</p>
<p>Increasingly when I approach the subject of religion I am noticing two distinct camps of people. Those that have a very visceral experience of their religious practice, they tend to talk in expressions that embody and celebrate their belief. They might exclaim, &#8220;God is love!&#8221; or &#8220;Jesus loves me&#8221; and <I>feel</I> loved. Often these people don&#8217;t have a particularly sophisticated theology, and you could probably argue that they don&#8217;t <I>need</I> one. (I think from the earlier remark about walking &#8216;around being boring and dull&#8217; it is safe to assume that these are the kind of people being targeted by this campaign.) Then there are other people who consider religious ideas as ideas, and consider them in a context much larger than their own religious tradition. I don&#8217;t particularly understand how one could commit to a religion without a thoughtful discourse about revelation, particularly, and atonement. Because really religion <I>isn&#8217;t</I> about morality necessarily, it is about the divine and the mysterious &#8211; the <I>mysterium tremendum</I>, it is about the nature and existence of God and whether that force reveals itself and interacts with humanity or not. And what, if any, implications that might have for us as a species. So how do you <I>know</I> God? Through the religious texts, through the relevations he made through individuals? How do you evaluate religious texts? Which prophets are the &#8216;true&#8217; prophets; and which are mouthpieces for the devil, or suffering from mental illness? Which God(s) are the true one(s) and which the &#8216;false&#8217; idols? But most importantly consider your own process; how did you come to <I>know</I> these things? How did you decide? What&#8217;s your method?</p>
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		<title>Jesus: All About Erm&#8230; Something</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 11:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John Lacey</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[You may have seen the banners (especially if you're in New South Wales). "Jesus: All About Life," they read. It is an initiative of the Bible Society, in conjunction with marketing company Taurus. Although I didn't know that at the time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may have seen the banners (especially if you&#8217;re in New South Wales). &#8220;Jesus: All About Life,&#8221; they read. It is an initiative of the Bible Society, in conjunction with marketing company Taurus. Although I didn&#8217;t know that at the time. I asked my mother (a dedicated Anglican) if the signs were something to do with her particular church. She told me that it was actually an initiative across &#8216;all the churches.&#8217;</p>
<p>I looked at her thoughtfully for a moment and said, &#8220;Well, at least the ones that <I>believe</I> in Jesus.&#8221;</p>
<p>But the general idea and hope is to produce dialogue among those faiths that incorporate Jesus as a central figure &#8211; Catholicism, Christianity (various denominations) and Judaism, I suppose.</p>
<p>Daniel Willis, CEO of The Bible Society, talking to Rachel Kohn on <A HREF="http://www.abc.net.au/rn/spiritofthings/stories/2009/2686587.htm">The Spirit of Things</A>: </p>
<blockquote><p>Well I&#8217;m saying people don&#8217;t know what Jesus said and here is the opportunity, in this campaign, to put out there the actual words that Jesus said. Because when you look at what Jesus said you find he&#8217;s actually a very radical person. He was counter-cultural. [...] So what we&#8217;ve ended up with I think over the centuries is the message of Jesus being clouded by movies, by what other people have said, by what the church has added to it. And when you get back to what Jesus said it actually makes sense and it under girts the values we all want.</p></blockquote>
<p><span style="float: right; margin-left:10px;" ><script type="text/javascript"><!--
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</script></span>This was a major stumbling block for me. I am not a biblical scholar but I am reasonably convinced Jesus never said anything to the effect of &#8216;the shetland pony was an absolute cinch&#8217; (as he does in a <I>Jesus: All About Life</I> radio ad). Whether you treat the Bible as literal truth, as allegory or as fiction, it is important to appreciate the distinction between &#8216;What <I>Would</I> Jesus Do?&#8217; (an invitation to speculate) and &#8216;What <I>Did</I> Jesus Do?&#8217; (as recorded within these texts). That Willis freely acknowledges that without a understanding of the Bible many artistic, literary and pop culture references are lost on individuals while feeling he has license to further cloud &#8216;the message of Jesus&#8217; within the context of this campaign is perplexing. But it seems to be a broader trend within Christian traditions, one that sees this kind of embellishment as permissable if it exists within a generally accepted narrative and understanding of Jesus.</p>
<p>And even the tagline &#8216;All About Life&#8217; is open to interpretation. In what ways is Jesus &#8216;All About Life&#8217;? Does Jesus&#8217; supposed relevance to life relate to him as a historical figure, as the key to &#8216;salvation&#8217; in the Christian tradition, as a &#8216;personal&#8217; figure? If you accept the idea of a &#8216;personal Jesus&#8217; over a historical one, suddenly the popular tendency towards speculation and embellishment makes perfect sense.</p>
<p>Writer and former religious reporter, <A HREF="http://www.abc.net.au/rn/spiritofthings/stories/2009/2652633.htm">Tom Harpur</A>: </p>
<blockquote><p>I can&#8217;t prove to anyone Jesus Christ or Muhhammad or whomever never existed. And in one sense, it doesn&#8217;t really matter because the average Christian has a mythical Christ that they&#8217;re talking about anyway. You take ten people coming out of a service anywhere on a Sunday and ask them what their picture of Jesus is. And you&#8217;ll find it is not exactly something that can be replicated because everybody has their own personal Jesus. This is a creation of the religious imagination. Not that they have been brainwashed, but taught, or however you want to put it by a religious tradition into thinking a certain way about it. But I mean, Christ in you, Paul says. How can a historical person be in you? I fail to understand.
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<p>I don&#8217;t have a personal Jesus. Like Harpur, I struggle with the historical Jesus. And I wonder what the &#8216;word of Jesus&#8217; might do for me, as a non-believer, that modern morality cannot? Perhaps the emphasis on Jesus (as opposed to God) is about highlighting the New Testament in favour of the Old Testament (with its burnt offerings and slavery). I once suggested that the <I>Harry Potter</I> books had as much to say about life as the Bible did. I was being flippant at the time, but there is a great truth here. Any compelling work of literature encapsulates themes and ideas that relate to life and morality and personal and societal values. Modern texts have a modern frame of reference and perhaps a greater understanding of the complexity of modern life, as well as a broader sense of community values. Certainly the bible&#8217;s relationship with women, homosexuals, slavery and human sacrifice is a far cry from modern day morality. And at the point where you selectively embrace teachings of Jesus have you not in effect elected a &#8216;personal Jesus&#8217; over a historical one?</p>
<p>And why Jesus, why not God? I mean it&#8217;s all well and good to say this is not about &#8216;the church&#8217; and rather about Jesus but there is clearly a proselytising element to this campaign.</p>
<p>Happy Sunday!</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 21:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John Lacey</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It certainly confused many of my friends... The day that I decided that there probably <I>wasn't</I> a God (and that <I>He</I> probably wasn't going to shoot down me with lightning) I became completely fascinated with religion.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It certainly confused many of my friends&#8230; The day that I decided that there probably <I>wasn&#8217;t</I> a God (and that <I>He</I> probably wasn&#8217;t going to shoot down me with lightning) I became completely fascinated with religion. <span style="float: right; margin-left:10px;" ><script type="text/javascript"><!--
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</script></span>Suddenly with the fear evaporated and some clarity on what I did believe I was just left with all these artifacts. Some of them oddball, some of them profound, but all of them quite interesting. I wondered too why people believed the things they did, why individual denominations seemed to distinguish themselves so much from each other when they (seemingly) had so much in common. I think I was trying to take a sociological approach to religion.</p>
<p>Recently I found someone who had considered this &#8211; and many other things &#8211; and expressed them much more eloquently than I could muster. Former Bishop of Edinburgh Richard Holloway is one of the most interesting people I&#8217;ve ever encountered. Speaking at the Sydney Writers&#8217; Festival earlier this year, here <A HREF="http://www.abc.net.au/rn/encounter/stories/2009/2587355.htm">recorded and transcribed by Encounter</A> on Radio National: </p>
<blockquote><p>There isn&#8217;t a real divine broadcaster, there isn&#8217;t a real God, so all this revelation that we&#8217;ve been receiving, all this talk that we&#8217;ve been doing, is us talking to ourselves. But that does not reduce its meaning or value. It&#8217;s good talk, it&#8217;s powerful talk, it&#8217;s meaningful talk. It&#8217;s us telling ourselves stories, offering ourselves narratives to try and explain the mystery of our own existence, and if you&#8217;re a wise person you&#8217;re not going to dismiss that. You&#8217;re not going to simply erase and rub out as if it lacks significance, these thousands of years of gathered tradition. You&#8217;re going to look at it, you&#8217;re going to interrogate it, because it&#8217;s telling you about you, it&#8217;s telling humanity about itself. It&#8217;s a kind of gestalt of the human condition.</p>
<p>It talks about Hell, it talks about the Devil, it talks about sin and temptation. And these are not supernatural realities, these are human experiences. There is a dark continent in each of us that can easily give itself to the dark side, we know that. And so interrogating these texts makes sense. Do not let them die, do not let them fade into the past like lots of other things, because we need them today. These narratives, these metaphors, these troches speak to us about the sorrow and glory of the human condition.</BLOCKQUOTE></p>
<p>And then there was the idea of <A HREF="http://blog.johnlacey.net/ethical-religiosity/">Ethical Religiosity</A> that I clumisly proposed. The idea that somehow people should complement their religious beliefs with a modern compassion and decency towards other people. For Holloway the greatest danger seems to be supposing too much about God, having too much certainty and too little doubt, too little modesty. He explains: </p>
<blockquote><p>[...] I&#8217;m a bit loose on God, I&#8217;m not an atheist, I can&#8217;t confidently say there is no God. But I&#8217;m equally allergic to people who claim to know everything about God. And one reason I call myself an agnostic is because I think it&#8217;s quite a biblical position, because certainly in the Hebrew scriptures, the greater danger was always idolatry, knowing what God was, than not knowing, which is why they didn&#8217;t even like me to use the name of God, to take the name of God in vain.</BLOCKQUOTE></p>
<p>And finally: </p>
<blockquote><p>And so given the shifting, kaleidoscopic nature of this human debate that has been going on for centuries and is likely to go on, it seems to me to be immodest to claim too much certainty for the particular notch in the continuum in which you find yourself. And one of the things I find myself doing is pleading for a bit more modesty in the way we debate these issues, a bit more magnanimity towards the people with whom we disagree.</BLOCKQUOTE></p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t even touched on Holloway&#8217;s Kaleidoscope (the distinctions he makes between <I>Strong Religion</I>, <I>Weak Religion</I>, <I>After Religion</I>, and <I>Absence of Religion</I>), though it was also a great personal revelation and helped my own understanding of individuals&#8217; relationships to, and consumption of, religion.</p>
<p><A HREF="http://www.abc.net.au/rn/encounter/stories/2009/2587355.htm">Download Richard Holloway&#8217;s <I>Shaking The Kaleidoscope</I></A></p>
<p>Happy Sunday!</p>
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